#kylo proposing

[myfandomistingling]

[raisedbythetv89]

Two of the worst proposals in the history of modern media followed by the most pathetic cringe fail loser puppy dog eyes when their absolutely abysmal attempts at saying “I love and want only you” fail miserably and unfortunately for me I desire both of them carnally

bonus: they even both hit this pose after being knocked on their ass during said failed proposal attempt

[generalkenobee]

How Kylo would propose…

UHHHH honestly I think Kylo is shy at heart (my Kylo headcannons)

So I think he would want it to be very private. No parties, no bands or fireworks.. sorry guys

He would probably be like "I was thinking we could go on a date. Where do you want?" And when you said "OH!!! maybe we could go on a walk though the forest ?!" (That's just an example btw)

You sounded so excited for a date which just made him more nervous because he didn't want to ruin what you guys already had..

---

He got to one knee and you were already crying

"(Y/N), will-"

"YES!" You screamed it, he was sure anybody within a 10 mile radius had heard.

THANK YOU FOR THE REQUEST !!!🩷🩷🩷🩷

[fallingdeeperintothispit]

Why Not Me?

For @makekyluxsuffer prompt 4: Forbidden/Unrequited/ “I’ll Always Be Alone.”

If someone had told Armitage Hux back when he was but a cadet that he would be hopelessly in love with an ex-Jedi in a few years, he would have called them crazy.

Then he would have shot them with his blaster for daring to suggest he was able to feel, let alone love.

Yet here he was, the youngest General in the history of the first order, head over heels for Kylo Ren, leader of the Knights of Ren.

His co-commander. His enemy. His reason for trying, his reason for wanting the first order to achieve success. When they won the war, Hux had promised himself he would tell Ren how he felt.

That was until the girl. A lowly scavenger, whose only claim to fame was her mysterious connection to the “Force”.

And she had Kylo Ren completely wrapped around her dirt-covered fingers from the moment he heard about her.

Hux had lost many nights to a mental competition (usually accompanied by a strong drink) of himself to the girl. The only things she had going for her were her force ability and her body.

Though it wasn’t exactly like she was beautiful, Hux understood the appeal, even if he had never found women attractive and never would.

The truth was Hux succeeded her in every way, the only difference being that he was not a woman, nor was he force-sensitive.

He was 99% sure Ren didn’t care what gender the scavenger was, but it wasn’t like he could make himself un-forcenull. 

Hux found himself despairing, because Ren had it all right there: a person with similar position, someone who could balance out his weakness, someone who wasn’t a golden pillar for the karking Resistance- but no, he wanted the Jakku Rat.

As Hux watched the holo-projected version of Ren propose to the girl (because that what it was, a proposal, no matter how negatively he had worded it) he couldn’t help but react to Ren’s statements.

“Join me,” the past version of Ren pleaded.

Hux stretched his hand out to Ren’s, just as the voice of the girl cried out about “Ben” and all that other nonsense.

He shut the projector off. He knew what happened next.

He had the scars to prove it.

He placed his head in his hands, sliding down against his wall onto the floor of his quarters.

Ren would always be obsessed with her. That was the truth of the matter- Hux could see it in the other man’s eyes.

“I’ll always be alone,” Hux declared.

He could love no one but Ren, and Ren would never love him back.

[scifimom13]

Chapters: 3/3 Fandom: Star Wars - All Media Types, Star Wars Sequel Trilogy, Star Wars Original Trilogy, Saturday Night Live Sketches Rating: Mature Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings Relationships: Rey/Ben Solo | Kylo Ren, Rey/Ben Solo, Zorii Bliss/Poe Dameron, Finn/Rose Tico Characters: Rey (Star Wars), Ben Solo | Kylo Ren, Poe Dameron, Zorii Bliss, Rose Tico, Finn (Star Wars), Leia Organa, Luke Skywalker, Han Solo, Randy the Intern (Undercover Boss: Starkiller Base), Matt the Radar Technician, Kylo Ren Additional Tags: Alternate Universe - Modern Setting, Alternate Universe - Teachers, Halloween, Halloween Costumes, Marriage Proposal, Pregnancy, Unexpected Pregnancy, SO MUCH FLUFF, Dry Humping, Secrets, Autumn, Pumpkins, Triplets, the triplets are five years old, ketchup, catsup, mayo - Freeform, mustard, relish, Condiments, snl, No Angst, Engagement, Devoted Rey/Ben Solo | Kylo Ren, Ben Solo is adorable, Not Beta Read, Mischief, Managed Series: Part 2 of Mischief, Mischief, Mischief Summary:

“You’d be my catsup to my ketchup, though, wouldn’t you, Rey?”

“Yeah, that’s right, catsup. You’re never going to stop teasing me about that,” Rey murmured over her shoulder, shrugging, “It’s what Chewie and Lando always had in the fridge at the garage.”

“To-may-to, to-ma-to.” Ben teased, caught up in the moment, “You didn’t answer the question, Rey.”

[rey-jake-therapist]

Awful marriage proposals, the hall of Shame

Darcy, first proposal to Elizabeth :

Insults her family, implies he's stupid to propose her, and basically says she's lucky he loves her despite the "inferiority of her birth". Lovely, I wonder why it didn't work...

2. Kylo Ren, proposal to Rey

Nothing says "true love" more than a man who starts his love confession by telling the girl he likes she's not worth shit "except for him" because her parents were losers who sold her for drinking money, right? Rey was totally crying of happiness. Sure.

3. Sauron, proposal to Galadriel

"Darling, if you don't marry me, your people will all die, darkness will cover the world and I'll tell everyone it was your fault"

Guys I'm not sure, but I think we've got a winner !

What a bunch of losers...

[darklinaforever]

Haladriel / Saurondriel apparently has a scene resembling Kylo Ben asking Rey to join him at the end of The Last Jedi. I can't wait to see this. On the other hand, this is the moment where lots of idiots come out of their holes to say that Reylo is deeply toxic and that this scene in particular is only manipulation and a belittling for Rey because Kylo dares to say that she It's nothing but not for him. People, it’s been years at this point ! I thought it had finally sunk in that Kylo is essentially making a failed Darcy-style marriage proposal! I'm sick of this bullshit being said on this stage! Kylo is just clumsily trying to make Rey understand that she matters to him! Honestly, fuck yourself and buy yourself some media literacy. It's 2024, dammit.

[not-so-allegiant-general]

Proposal for @kyluxwedding

"We have to get married."

Kylo blinked and shift on the bed. Suddenly he wasn't so sleepy anymore.

"What?"

" For political reasons. To solidify our position as rulers. It will be well seen. "

"We have to get married, for political reasons." Kylo repeated slowly.

"That's what i just said. Why are you so slow today?" Hux huffed clearly annoyed. Kylo was staring at him for quite a while and then cleared his throat.

"Yeah... I... Is this a common practise on Arkanis? Or First Order... I mean political marriage."

"Of course. Why would people get married? You are being ridiculous. It is strategically beneficial for both of us can't you see it?"

"No. I mean... Yes i do see it but... "

"Good. Then we agree." Hux closed his eyes and rolled onto his side. Kylo was staring at his back for a moment and then laid down slowly. He couldn't sleep anymore.

Maybe he was still to naive but in Kylo Ren's world people married for love.

(to be honest i just come by this event today and whipped out this. I think it will be a series of really short scenes about the same Emperor Hux and his loyal knight Ren to fill every prompt. Hope you like it 🧡🖤)

[emeraldspiral]

You know, I remember both before and after TLJ dropped people were calling Reylo "Space Pride & Prejudice" but there was one person I recall who said right after getting out of the theater "We were wrong. Kylo isn't Space Darcy, he's Space Rochester" and they were totally right.

Like, P&P really doesn't have that much in common with Reylo. P&P is about misjudging people. Lizzie rejects Darcy at the midpoint of the story because she's had a bad impression of him the whole time and the sudden revelation that he's in love with her does nothing to improve her opinion because Darcy's still clearly communicating that he thinks poorly of her rank and relations and remorselessly sabotaged her sister's relationship with Bingley. By contrast, Jane Eyre is madly in love with Rochester by the story's midpoint but rejects him because there's no way for them to be together without compromising her integrity.

It's easy for Lizzie to reject Darcy because she doesn't like him at all, but it takes Jane tremendous strength to resist temptation and leave Rochester. Rey clearly likes Ben by the end of TLJ. She wouldn't have confided in him, touched his hand, and FedExed herself to the Supremacy if she didn't already like him, and is clearly devastated to have to say "No" when he proposes to her. She even explicitly states in TROS that she was tempted to take his hand. But she didn't, because she would've had to compromise her morals to be with Ben while he was still on the Dark Side. Just like Jane, Rey is someone who's always craved love, so the hardest thing in the world for her is finding her soulmate, only to have to tear herself away from him just when happiness is within her grasp.

[universeofmuses]

Kylo could feel the relief that was coming from the captain of the troopers, “Dont allow this praise to make you sloppy Captain Phasma, I will not tolerate failure.” He threatened, Kylo wanted to keep her hungry, keep her motivated to continue to perform at the high level she had been performing at.

(For Kylo) “Lord Ren, I have a proposal to make. You handle the Sith side of things, while I become the lead enforcer for stormtroopers.”

"Go on." Kylo said at first and then listened to his most trusted lieutenant and her proposal, he fixed her with a hard look for a moment. While it wasnt a secret that he was a Sith, maybe the first Sith in decades. "This sounds adequate. Now I have someone to blame when the troops fail to perform." He said simply like it wasnt a big deal, though the other thing he was known for was his ferocious temper.

[aeroquarium]

You’re on My Mind (and in My Head) Chapter One: Only in My Dreams [Kylo Ren x male reader] (NSFW)

Summary: You do your best to pretend you aren’t having wet dreams about Kylo Ren. Little do you know, he’s well aware.

CW, includes: innapropriate use of the force, wet dreams (rough sex, bondage, oral sex)

Word count: 1.7k

★

He relentlessly pounds into you as you scream out, begging for release as your nails draw lines across his back. He smirks and thrusts harder, his movements growing rough and sloppy as he gets closer and closer to reaching his climax. He looks into your eyes and- a loud series of beeps wakes you from your sleep, you groan and shut off your alarm.

You have these dreams almost every night, and almost every morning you wake up disappointed and horny. It’s a mystery why you get these dreams.. Okay, well, maybe it isn’t. You’ve had romantic feelings for Ren for quite some time, it has to have been at least a whole cycle by now. 

It started the day you suggested an idea for gathering intel on the Resistance and Ren praised you for your intelligent proposal. The praise awoke something in you and the butterflies in your stomach took flight. Every single day since then, you’ve craved more of his approval. You made sure all your work was nothing but exceptional. Your reports were flawless and you only shared your brightest ideas. But, after about a month, you realized it wasn’t just his praise you craved. It began with the anxiety that arose in you when he was around. Then it was the way your heart fluttered when he walked past you. You craved him.

You shot back to reality when your second alarm went off. You always kept on at least two alarms, just in case the first one didn’t work. The idea of being late and appearing unprofessional was anxiety-inducing but, what you were most afraid of was disappointing Ren.

Sitting up, you shut off your blaring alarm and rose from your bed, heading for the bathroom. Carefully and gently brushing your teeth, you stared at yourself in the mirror. Get it together, you’re a ruthless admiral of the First Order, not some lovesick fool. You’re nothing but a tool to him, so forget about it and just do your job, providing yourself with a reality check.

After a moment, you hopped into the refresher to freshen up for the day ahead of you. Today you were scheduled to oversee preparations for another mission to attempt to retrieve information on the Resistance’s location. While mapping out your day in your head, your mind started to stray from things work-related. It was as you were shampooing your hair that the image of Ren forcing you down to suck his cock popped up in your head. Your groan of frustration contradicted your what was going through your mind, thoughts about him fucking your mouth, his movements being rough and desperate. The idea of Ren manhandling you and using you for his own pleasure made the blood rush down to your lower abdomen. Now you were standing in the refresher, shampoo still in your hair, with a boner. You shut your eyes and groaned once more, tugging on your hair in distress. It took a minute, but eventually you regained your composure and rinsed out the shampoo.

Feeling clean and refreshed, you walked back into your bedroom with a towel wrapped around your waist. Walking over to your closet, you took out your uniform and hung it on the door of the cabinet. After unwrapping the towel and throwing it into your hamper for the laundry droid to collect later, you began dressing yourself, pulling on a pair of boxers. It was with great care that you put on your tunic and pants. You were very proud of your rank and uniform, it took a lot of time and effort to achieve everything you have. At first, you were nothing but another insignificant person on some distant planet. The First Order took you in, along with others from your home planet, but you were one of the few who took your job seriously and climbed up the ranks, finally reaching your current title of Admiral. It felt good to have a purpose, especially one that was working towards something important for the entire galaxy.

A few minutes later, after you had finished dressing, you returned to the bathroom to fix up your hair and giving it a final comb through. Once that was done, you checked your outfit in your full body mirror to make sure everything was as it should be. Content with your appearance, you headed for the door and then the lift. It was time to head down to the main bridge.

Exiting the lift, you then made your way over to the bridge. Once you had reached your destination, you were met with a rush of anxiety at the sight in front of you. Kylo Ren was standing at the end of the bridge, staring out the viewport, studying what seemed to be nothing. You remembered your dream about him, reminiscing on how dream-Ren had looked at you and how he fucked you and- Maker, help me, you thought to yourself as you walked over to see if he needed anything. “Supreme Leader,” you greeted him, tilting your head down in respect, “are you in need of anything, Sir?”

He continued to stare out the viewport, “Admiral. Just checking in on things, wanted to see how things are progressing.”

“I see, Sir. Well, things are going well, we’re currently preparing to follow up on a lead, it may have information on the Resitance’s current whereabouts and what they’re planning,” you replied.

Finally, he turned to look at you, “Good, good. Seems like you’re doing good work.”

It just took that tiny bit of praise to make your stomach flutter. Pretending to have not been affected by that, you offered a polite smile, “I do my best, Sir. I hope my efforts are satisfactory.”

“More than, Admiral,” he simply responded. You thought that was the end of your conversation with the Supreme Leader, but then he went on to inquire you, “Have you been well? I can feel your exhaustion. Have you not been sleeping well lately?

It wasn’t surprising that he could sense your emotions, you knew he was able to sense the feelings of those around him. What was interesting was that he was taking the time to question you about this. You were about to tell him that you had been experiencing some intense and very vivid dreams and it was just exhaustion from dealing with everything that came with that, but then you thought it better not to mention that. Instead, you responded, “It’s nothing I assure you, Sir,” with what you hoped was a look of reassurance, hoping he wouldn’t question you about this further. You didn’t need him somehow sensing that you were regularly having sexual dreams about him.

“Don’t hesitate to let me know if you’re in need of anything, I wouldn’t want my best Admiral feeling unwell,” He said after a moment, his gaze returning to the darkness that lies beyond the viewport.

Your cheeks flushed a light scarlet. He thought you were his best Admiral? The First Order was full of so many wise and knowledgeable people, and yet he called you his best? Honored couldn’t even begin to describe how you felt. “I appreciate that, Sir. I shall keep that in mind,” you responded, your tone appreciative.

Ren nodded, continuing to look outside, leaving you wondering what it was he was thinking so intensely about. You wished you could see the expression on his face right now, missing the way he looked when he focused on something in his head. He was just as intimidating, if not more, without his mask and you found it hot, very hot. Whenever he had his mask off, you carefully studied his face, taking note of every wrinkle, line, and freckle. He rarely took off his mask, so you made sure to map out his face as accurately as possible in your head. Longing to see the look on his face right now and the way his hair falls so perfectly, framing his face, you decided to distract yourself by looking out the viewport as well. Doing your best to avert your thoughts away from how incredibly attractive Ren was, you focused in on a distant star.

It was when you were thinking about how bright that star was that another image flashed in your head. This time it was Ren towering over you as you lay tied down to a bed. He traced his fingers down your body, past your chest and then your stomach, until he was about to touch your most intimate area. You shivered and blinked a few times, hoping Ren didn’t notice your change in demeanor.

“Everything all right, Admiral?” he questioned, looking over at you. He definitely noticed and you prayed to the Maker that he couldn’t sense what you were thinking about.

Regaining your composure, you quickly reassured him, “Yes, Sir. Just got lost in a thought, nothing more.”

He stared at you for a bit and you wished you knew what he was thinking about. A minute later, he responded “I see. Take care of yourself, Admiral. I have a meeting in 10 minutes, so I shall take my leave now. I’ll see you at tomorrow’s meeting.”

You nodded at this, telling him you’d see him then as well. Watching as he walked away with purpose and a confidence that radiated off of him, you found yourself getting lost in thought once again. It was painful having these feelings towards him, especially knowing that said feelings wouldn’t ever be returned. You wished and wished that the thoughts and dreams about him would stop. It was difficult beyond words to feel this way for him.

Heading back to your quarters, exhausted after a full day’s work, you reminisced on your conversation from earlier with Ren. You thought about the way he stared at you and you found yourself, once again, wondering what he was thinking about in that moment. Your feelings for him were so overwhelming. It was all you could think about when you weren’t working, and even then it still sometimes found its way into your thoughts. Thinking about how he would never feel the same left you with your eyes stinging, but you refused to cry over this. You tried to distract yourself by thinking about answering some messages from colleagues on your datapad. Finally, you reached your door and unlocked it, heading inside to take another shower, this time to clear your head.

[tljisthegoat]

Star Wars: The Death of Compassion

Isn't it ironic that a company that used to be known for Happily Ever Afters would force upon us all in cinemas all across the world, The Greatest Tragedy in Star Wars history?

Reylo represents far, far more than just another couple in this galaxy far, far away that we love so very much. It wasn't just a new beginning and a journey of healing for these two characters, but for the entire galaxy as a whole.

The fact that we had people across the internet for years up to this very minute that I'm typing this sentence, that will never give The Last Jedi the flowers it always deserved. Too consumed and blindsided by their own hatred to understand how profoundly important that movie is for Star Wars.

It showed a broken hero rise again, a star-crossed romance built on understanding fall short due ironically to both people misunderstanding each other at the final hour (creating delicious angst & plenty of potential for their reunion and happy ending), and sooo much potential for new stories that we haven't ever seen before for Star Wars.

Like we could've easily gotten a story about Kylo Ren going rogue due to his failure to be with Rey (not realizing that had he let his hatred go and became Ben Solo again, he'd have gotten Rey)

That's not even mentioning the elephant in the room that is Reylo denying their longing for each other because of The Throne Room Proposal Scene. Which would be absolutely beautiful to see in a movie.

Getting back to our shared ugly reality... as things stand, there's two options. Go with Dark Rey as a way to rehab Rey & get Reylo back or go with Rey starting a new Jedi Order to cope with what happened on Exegol & having Ben Solo (HER Ben) taken away from her just when she believed they'd finally be together. Don't worry we all did sweetheart.

[techfan450]

Rey: So... How come you guys are hitched?

Kylo: Well...

*three days ago*

Hux: *soccer punchs Kylo* PROPOSE ALREADY YOU GIANT GORILLA DUMB F*CK!!!

[artist-issues]

To Re-Write Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker

Here's a peek into my storytelling process, and what I think the third movie of the Star Wars Sequel Trilogy should've looked like. You know me. Everything starts with the Main Point. (I'm not going to talk about what's bad about Rise of Skywalker in this post, it'll be long enough already.)

The Main Point: "Where there is love, there is hope."

Essentially, the main message of Star Wars is "Faith Triumphs Over Fear." Our main message supports that, because it's hard to keep the faith when you're alone, or feel alone. But when you have friends, or loved ones to fight for, keeping the faith is easier, and gives you something other than fear to focus on.

So. I'm going to structure this like "Where a Character Was at the end of TLJ --> Where They Need to Be by the End of EP 9."

Most of these characters don't need any more development. They learned a core lesson at the end of TLJ: now they just need to hang on and put it into practice no matter what plot points test them. Stick the landing. We already had their "Proposal, Argument—" now we need their "—Conclusion."

The only exception to this is Kylo Ren. He still needs development. You'll see:

Rey

It's Not About Who I Am; It's About Doing the Good I Can Do --> Tempted to Make a Selfish-Insecure-Identity-Based Decision; Chooses to Do the Self-Sacrificial, Good Thing Instead.

This means Rey needs to have a goal she's trying to accomplish, but this time there's not really a "and then I'll know who I am" element in it for her. Like in TLJ, she was going to find Luke for the greater good, but it was also, on a personal level, because:

But this time, after TLJ, she needs to start out on a mission that doesn't have anything in it for her besides the greater good... to show that she's grown in the right direction, she's not thinking so much about who she is and what she needs, anymore.

Then, on that mission, during that adventure, that character growth can be tested by having the opportunity to get sidetracked by something that could be self-validating.

I wouldn't make it be something about her parents again—we've exhausted that topic by the end of TLJ. But I'd make it something that has to do with being "The Last Jedi, the Heiress to the Light Side of the Force." I'd set the movie up with people telling her that, eventually, Rey will grow to be the legend Luke Skywalker was.

Maybe in the time between TLJ and this movie, the Resistance have run enough rescue missions of refugees or people oppressed by the First Order to pick up a bunch of kids or very young recruits. And those kids have heard of or seen Rey in action by now. Maybe Broom Boy is even one of them. And there are scenes of kids being in awe of Rey, or one of them even says, "after you beat the First Order, will you train me, Master Jedi?" or Maz herself makes a sage comment like, "Look how the Light has grown in you. The Galaxy needed that light...and the Force answered with you, like Luke Skywalker before you." Or during a fun opening-rescue mission, there's a scene where all of the people Rey is helping look up to her and explain who she is to one another in front of her.

Scenes providing her with an image of herself, as the future trainer of the Jedi Order, "when all this is over." Something that she could be tempted to find her identity in.

But then during the course of her mission, she has the opportunity to do one of these things

Gain Amazing New Jedi Knowledge

Kill Kylo Ren and Gain Renown as a Hero

Sacrifice Some Measure of the Power She Has Gained in the Force

And if she chooses the thing that will make her seem more like the Heroic Heiress of the Heroes, that would derail her from her mission and show that she's still thinking about herself—but if she chooses to just do the self-sacrificial, kind thing in the moment, it would help her mission. Yet, it should make her future as someone of fame and importance in the Force uncertain—so that option is also self-sacrificial. Thats the choice she has to make.

And when she makes the right one, we see, not that she got to Be Somebody and vanquished her fear of "dying a nobody" from the first time we met her—

—but that she's not even afraid of that anymore. It's okay to "die a nobody," if everyone else is better off. Because that was a self-focused fear, anyway, and it no longer has power over her. (For lots of reasons—one of which being she now has friends.) Character growth. Star Wars.

Finn

Good Can Win if We Focus on Saving Loved Ones Instead of Destroying Hated Ones --> Tempted to Get Revenge, But Sacrifices Revenge to Save Someone Else he Loves

This means Finn is focused on getting something/keeping something that will provide aid/protect the people he has come to love. Most of his screen-time can be focused on this, to build on showing how far he's come. He should have multiple opportunities to run away, whether it be from First Order troops attacking a Resistance base, or from the scene of a conflict when a rescue mission goes sideways—but instead he keeps staying in dangerous situations to help loved ones.

My favorite scenario to place him in, for this, is in a covert-ops mission where he's infiltrating First Order stormtroopers. He already knows the system, but we've only seen him exploit that knowledge when it's to save his own skin/cause hurt to the people who abused him in the First Order. He doesn't like to be around First Order troops because he hates them/he's afraid of them. But in Episode 9, after TLJ, I'd be showing Finn, choosing to stay where he's surrounded (even if unknown) by people who could uncover his true identity and kill him at any moment—and doing it because it protects the Resistance, in some way. I'd also broaden that focus—he's specifically doing it because it helps the larger cause, not necessarily because his actions will directly save anyone he loves, like Rose or Poe or Rey.

But—at some point in this movie, someone he's attached to dies. I think the most obvious choice is Rose, but she was the one who taught him about avoiding hate and saving loved ones. Revenge for Rose would be far from what Rose would want, so it wouldn't tempt him. So instead I think it should be either a new character that he spends most of the first act of Ep. 9 bonding with believably—or it should be Poe.

Poe, or a stormtrooper he really likes who has just come around to leaving the First Order when she is brutally killed. (I do think Poe, or someone we've seen him "grow up" with throughout the first two films, should be the one to die because otherwise it wouldn't be as tempting for Finn to get revenge, at this point in his arc.)

Then Finn pursues revenge, near the climax of the film. But at the last second, a-la-Luke-tossing-away-his-lightsaber, Finn gives up the opportunity for that revenge and does something else. Something useful, that saves Resistance lives, but causes the person he was about to exact revenge upon to escape.

That's how we see that Finn has come full circle—not only is he willing to stay when things get frightening and hard, and not only is he willing to fight for people he loves...but he's willing to act out of that love, not hate, because of what he's learned.

Poe

A Leader Sacrifices for the Greater Good of Others, Not For His Own Pride  --> Tempted to Make a Hero's Stand; Gives Someone Else the Opportunity Instead

This one is tricky because it's hard to make a scenario where a leader makes a choice that is exciting to watch...when the choice is "don't make a heroic last stand."

It's tricky. It's not impossible. (Rian Johnson did not see anyone up for failure. The TROS storytellers just refused to problem-solve when it got hard. Thats all I'll say about TROS.)

Basically, this means that Poe needs to start the film out at the head of the Resistance. He's still going on missions, but his role in those missions is coordination. One team gets to be the distraction—another team saves the day. Then when both teams are done with their missions, and it looks like they'll give their lives for those missions because there's no way out, in drops Poe. He's been coordinating everything; he's just the getaway car driver.

Then there's fun banter scenes where he reports back to Leia, she's critiquing some of the messy parts of the plan but ultimately proud of him, they bounce ideas off each other, and it's clear it still rubs him the wrong way not to be on the frontlines, but he's enjoying parts of the new challenge of leadership anyway. And they're closer than ever.

Eventually, however, Leia is captured, just before the climax of the film. Like Finn, Poe drops everything the Resistance has been working toward and is intent on saving her, and he's taking a very active role in that. But then, due to her own reminder, he chooses to abandon rescuing her at a pivotal moment to do something that will ultimately turn the tide in the Resistance's favor during the climax. He lets Leia make the sacrifice, and he himself is making the sacrifice of getting to save her and have her back, for the greater good. It's a harder path, but it's one she was preparing him for this whole trilogy.

All of this is if Poe doesn't die to further Finn's arc.

Kylo Ren

It's Better to Destroy the Past in Conquest Than Face My Failures --> I Was Wrong

Biggest one.

Kylo Ren is on the Dark Side because he believed that he was destined to be a monster, nobody would keep loving him if that was his destiny, and leaning into that destiny would help him escape the hurt that nobody-loving-the-"destined"-him caused.

I'm not going to elaborate on that, it's as plain as the nose on his face if you watch the movies and listen to what his family members say about him and what he says about himself. That's why he embraced the Dark Side.

But Rey, Chewie, and Leia are still alive, and all three of them can claim to know the "real him," and try to convince him that he was wrong—he was never destined to be a monster, and they do love and believe in the real him, no matter what he's done.

However, he isn't likely to believe them. He's least likely to believe Leia—she sent him away before he'd done anything wrong, and he has now done many things wrong that are singularly hurtful to her. He's second-least likely to believe Chewie, because he killed Chewie's best friend and Chewie shot him (and also, it's not compelling for the audience for Kylo Ren's mind to be changed by a character that doesn't speak English or emote with human facial expressions.)

He's most likely to believe Rey. Because 1) she did not kill him even after he chose to be a monster all over again, and she could've done what Luke almost did and prevented more monstrous deeds by killing him while he was unconscious. And 2) on a deeper level, she never knew "Ben Solo." She only ever knew the monster, and yet she's still choosing to tell him that he's not stuck as a monster.

So. The movie should start with Kylo Ren as Supreme Leader, doing his utmost to gain power, crush the Resistance, and wipe out any reference to the New Republic or the Jedi. But the key difference is that he's not singlemindedly focused on Rey and Leia and killing them anymore. That's not because he's grown from his "I want every gun to fire on my Uncle" obsessive flaw. It's because he finished TLJ by being closer to regretting his decisions than ever before. In his subconscious, he's afraid of encountering Rey or Leia directly ever again, because now he knows how weak his own resolve is, at this point. He'd rather avoid a direct fight unless he knows he can withstand "the pull to the Light." (He's not admitting any of that to himself.)

So he starts the movie on a mission. But now we enter our bad guys.

Hux.

Hux has only ever existed in these movies to be a counterpoint to Kylo Ren. Where Kylo Ren is explosive, emotionally led, and tangles his personal interests up in the interests of the First Order—Hux is calculating, a strategist, and dedicated to the First Order's cause.

He's at his most passionate when giving speeches about the First Order's might, or when that might is being mocked, or when it is being misused. And he has always hated Kylo Ren. In the script for the Force Awakens, in Hux's introductory scene, it literally says "Hux hates Kylo Ren." That's what he's there for. To be everything to the First Order that Kylo Ren is missing—dedication to the cause, and finding his own sense of pride in that cause—and to hate Kylo Ren. So. When Kylo Ren gets to be Supreme Leader, and his personal issues are jeopardizing the whole First Order? Hux is going to put a stop to that. He doesn't have the Force. But he has control over his strategic mind, and he knows that Kylo Ren's weakness is his emotions.

So, Hux orchestrates some kind of scenario where they learn Rey's location, or next-known location. She's going after some important tech or artifact that could turn the tide of the war. Hux purposefully pokes at Kylo Ren's ego, and maybe faintly suggests that Ren is avoiding a confrontation with the girl who beat him twice and "murdered the Supreme Leader," until Kylo Ren flies off determined to get to the artifact or tech Rey is after first—and prove he's willing to kill her in the process. To himself, and the First Order.

Then Hux orchestrates an Order-66-style assassination attempt on the Supreme Leader with a group of loyal troopers. It should be in a starship flight over the planet Rey is on—Kylo Ren wouldn't believably be overcome in any other scenario. And he takes out almost all of his would-be traitor assassins during the attempt, anyway. But his ship does crash, and Hux takes the mantle of Supreme Leader, and our other heroes spend most of their time dealing with this rabid strategist and his war plans.

Meanwhile, Rey finds Kylo Ren who is barely alive and has to do something to save him. That something should, like I said above, cost Rey something. She should lose a particular Force-ability, or be permanently disabled in some (easily-hidden) way as a result of healing him—or she should lose an artifact, or lose something that would've boosted her identity as Savior of the Galaxy down the road.

But I wouldn't let Kylo Ren figure any of that out right away. For tension, I'd have him remain unconscious for the entirety of Rey saving his life and sacrificing something to do it. Then I'd have her need to hide him, then leave the scene, because she's still on a mission, and Hux has sent the Knights of Ren on the same mission. Then later, Kylo Ren can come to, catch up with her, and they can come to an agreement on looking for the thing they came for together, fighting the Knights of Ren along the way—even if they both know that this alliance will only last until they find the thing they each came to this planet for.

Kylo Ren has closed himself off to any Force bond with Rey. He's stubbornly insisting that he's using her—she's a means to an end. She's quietly certain that he'll come around, but she's not pushing it this time. She'll do what she has to do when they reach the end of their mission, but she's not worried about it. And she hasn't told him, or is hiding from him, the fact that she saved his life again. Because she knows, now, that he's not ready to hear any pleading or reasoning about coming to the Light. He has to get there on his own, and she can't force him (get it?)

They have lots of tense conversation and interesting team-up moments and almost-friendship, almost-betraying each other moments the whole time. Like they're in the Hunger Games in an alliance. Until eventually, the First Order's forces are converging on them (knowing both are alive) and Leia arrives—apparently to rescue Rey—and Kylo Ren, determined by this time not to let Rey go in any sense again, especially not to let her get to the end of her mission first, tries to board the Millenium Falcon and stop her. But it was a trap. Leia allows Rey to take a small craft to the end of her mission, while she and Kylo Ren face off. Leia won't let her son get in Rey's way if he's determined to stay on the Dark Side—and she certainly won't let him get the tech/artifact that might restore him to being the Supreme Leader.

(This whole standoff-stalemate-Leia trapping Kylo Ren in a ship with herself can be what Poe initially wants to save her from, too.)

Basically, at this point, whipping out her knowledge of Rey saving his life and pointing out that Rey believes in Ben Solo even after never having met him, Leia changes Kylo Ren's mind about all of it. If not for Rey and what Rey has shown him with her patience and steady faith, Leia wouldn't have been able to do this. But it works, and Kylo Ren leaves the Millenium Falcon as Ben Solo, finally, and he's determined to help Rey, who is racing toward the artifact/tech/final battle.

This is the bare bones. I'd add in or decide between a lot more elements—what is Hux's plan to wipe out the Resistance, what is the thing Rey/Kylo Ren are after, how does infiltrating Stormtroopers help the Resisrance in stopping whatever Hux is doing, does Finn have the Force, what're Chewie and the droids doing during all this, does Leia die at any point during her attempt to change Kylo Ren back, and is the final battle between Rey/Ben and the Knights of Ren? Or just one Knight of Ren who became the leader when they decided to turn on Kylo Ren and work with Hux? Or is the final battle against Hux and his forces?

I'd answer all those questions and try to do it in a way that interconnects Finn, Poe, Rey, and Rose's storylines. But this is just the bare bones of it all.

The conclusion is the tricky part. I don't think killing Kylo Ren works, even if he's redeemed. Not only because he's the last of the Skywalker/Solos. But because killing him makes Leia, Han, and Luke's hope for him feel kind of hollow. Especially if Leia dies to bring it about, which Han did already. "Our little Ben got to come back to the good side...for the last ten minutes of his life! Yaaay we always knew he could do it" NOPE. That's silly. And also, it's bad for his arc. He's a character that has been running from his bad decisions, thinking that stacking more and more on top of them will satisfy him. So what he needs is not a heroic-death-shaped back door out of the consequences of those bad decisions. He needs to face them.

And I also think, depriving Rey, a character who always wanted to stop being alone, of an organic if difficult relationship with someone who understands her, is a dissatisfying conclusion for the main character.

It would be best to have him live. And then he needs some difficult, but ultimately hopeful road ahead to mending his mistakes. Obviously the whole galaxy would be baying for his blood as justice, if they knew that the former Supreme Leader lived. So he probably needs to assume a new identity, just to avoid being executed for his crimes. (I don't think any Resistance member who knew Leia would be on board with executing Kylo Ren, once the war is over and they have to make that decision outside the heat of battle.)

Then he needs to do something that helps repair the wrongs he's done...but it should be something that costs him, personally. If he's come to value Rey as the only person left in the galaxy he cares about, I'd actually end the movie separating him from Rey. Not forever—because that would be as unsatisfying as killing him—but for the foreseeable future. Then I'd send him on a pilgrimage of some sort that will undo some things he's done. Obviously he can't bring back the lives he's taken. But, maybe whatever cataclysmic artifact or thing they were after did some damage across the galaxy during the climax—and Ben Solo can figure out how to reverse that damage, or repair the thing, but it'll be a long, hard road.

I might send Chewbacca with him. But that's it. It's basically atonement-exile, in disguise. In the meantime, Rey wouldn't be alone because she'd be with Finn and Poe (if he lives) and all her Resistance friends. And they'd start finding homes for the refugees from the war. I wouldn't directly end on Rey starting a Jedi school—not by herself. Only if she's doing it with Finn, or with Finn and Leia if Leia lives. Because again, we're going for "it ain't all about you and who you are, Rey."

That's what I'd do. Feel free to use this as a template or a springboard for your own ideas, (and hey send them to me if you do) because basically anything would be better than what we got with TROS. But this is just what I would do, bare framework.

[hux-and-gay]

Kylux and Adjacent Art

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Yes this gets its own post. I swear if I forgot anything I’m gonna cry.

Events:

Kylux Writing and Art event (ongoing)

NSFW prompt event (Cuming soon)

Kylux Switcheroo (Coming soon)

General Hux:

Me and my IRL as Kylo and Hux

Kylo and Hux’s eyeballs 👁️👁️

0 Context doodles

Hux hates the sun

Y/N gets bitch slapped by Hux

Kylo and Hux reflecting on their actions

Hux:

Hux Skating AU

Hux skating AU colored

Hux doodles

Hux in a dress (Post 1)(Post 2)

Blood Red Paint book cover/Hux in a skirt (Kylux Event)

Draw them in what you’re wearing challenge

Sunburnt Hux (Kylux Shorts fest)

Therapy

You’re trapped in an elevator challenge

Beat up blood covered Hux

Dishevled Hux inspired by Hux comic

Hux Angst

Child Trans Hux (and Brendol)

Trans Hux

Movie accurate Hux

an OC that’s def not based on Hux 👀

Vampire Hux

Kylux:

Mermay drawing (do Not reblog I hate this one)

Kylo and Hux watching the stars (Kylux Event)

Nervous Proposal comic (Kylux Event/Kylux wedding)

Monster x Monster Hunter AU concept art (Kylux Event)

Silly Fan art for my fic

Warm embrace (my personal favorite)

Just two guys idk man

1939

Doodles from bio class

Romeo and Juliet AU

Movie night

Bead Bracelets

Modern AU Soft Kylux

Emperor Hux and his knight

post TROS recovery

Vampire Hux and his victim

Hux stops denying he’s in love

Outsiders AU

Benarmie Halloween costumes (Huxloween)

Kylo:

Sad Kylo

NSFW:

Hux in lingerie

Scrapped concept art

The infamous crotch window

Twinkerbell

Bunny Boy Thomas McGregor

Bunny Boy Thomas extra spicy

Adjacent Characters/Ships:

Bill Weasley

Techie

Techie Sticker (100 followers event)

Modern AU Techie

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Writing:

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Grocery Stote Meet Cute

Kylux Proposal Cknclusion (Kylux wedding)

Bite the hand that feeds you

Kylux Summer Vacation crack fic (Kylux Shorts fest)

Till You Return (Kylux shorts fest)

Forever Destined (Kylux shorts fest)

Blood and Bramble Part 1 (Kylux shorts fest)

Love You Never and Always (Part 1: Never Love You)(Part 2: Always Love You) (Kylux shorts fest)

Crimson Rose (NSFW)

Faire l’amore (Crack fic, in French)

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[rey-jake-therapist]

Spoilers episode 8:

I've just seen a post saying that the ending of episode 8 is as "bad" as if Rey had accepted Kylo's proposal in The Last Jedi. I completely disagree because the situations are quite different: in TLJ, Rey had no reason to turn to the Dark Side: as far as she knew, she believed in a lie she had told herself: that her parents would come back for her. And Kylo tried to make her believe she wasn't important for anyone but him, which was a lie. He tried to get her on his sides by twisting a knife in her wounds, and got angry when she refused her offer.

Whereas Osha was being lied to by the man she trusted the most in the world: Sol was a father to her, yet he mislead her into thinking her sister had killed everybody, and never told her he was the one who had accidentally killed her mother. The Stranger did the opposite of what Kylo did in TLJ: he kept repeating she was stronger than she knew, and suggested she should let him train her, but never insisted, never got mad at her for resisting the call. He's not even the one who told her the truth about Sol, while he could have when they were in the cave, ten times! He told her how he felt about the Jedi but he didn't turn her against them. Like, he could have told her it was a Jedi master who gave him his scar, but when she asked, he kept quiet!

All this time, he wanted Osha to learn the truth by herself, probably like he did. Qimir didn't turn Osha against the Jedi: Sol did, first when he lied, and finally when he insisted he had done the right thing. And that's why it feels natural now for her to follow the Stranger, who opened her eyes but didn't force his version of the truth on her.